Wednesday, November 16, 2005

Signs, Jumpsuits and Disruptions

I attended the debate tonight with Professors John Yoo and John Radsen. The Left is not as organized as they were when they shouted down then-Vice President George H. Bush in 1987. But they still managed some creative theater. More on the debate here. The following are photos of the event:

They held up anti-war signs, wore orange jumpsuits and gags (similar to the red ones worn by detainees on air transit to Guantanamo Bay), and interrupted at planned intervals with scripted speeches. Clearly, the debate tired them out. The person with the shroud and the pretend electrodes (like the infamous Abu Ghraib photo) was worn out from standing with her arms spread eagle.


Blogger Derek Jensen said...

It's a mistake to cede the anti-torture position to the left. Swanblog should know better. After all, you're a Golden Valley attorney who used to be in the JAG Corps.

November 17, 2005 12:10 PM  
Blogger Derek Jensen said...

I heartily endorse this, from an email on Andrew Sullivan's site:

"Going into Iraq for slightly the wrong reason at slightly the wrong time in slightly the wrong way is unfortunate but does not have the potential to fundamentally harm our republic. Institutionalized torture, extra-judicial murder and secret detentions do. Everyone on the right needs to understand the truth of what has been done in all our names."

November 17, 2005 6:06 PM  
Blogger Cyborg2000 said...

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November 17, 2005 7:07 PM  
Blogger Cyborg2000 said...

Swanblog needs to get a new digital camera. I cannot make out a thing in these photos.

This looks like something that a camera which was dropped into a toilet, on new years eve, in an apartment at the riverside plaza would produce...

November 17, 2005 10:21 PM  
Blogger Cyborg2000 said...

It is difficult to justify torture without sounding callous, extremist, or even evil.

I do know this though, if it came down to a choice of whether or not to inflict torture on an Al Qaeda operative in order to save the life of my wife or children, I wouldn't need much time to make up my mind.

However, the real issue here is whether or not the Geneva Conventions apply to Al Qaeda operatives. Something that was obviously lost on the mainstream media as well as these students.

November 17, 2005 10:33 PM  
Blogger Derek Jensen said...

This is what separates the enlightened civilized countries from the barbaric medeival ones.

November 18, 2005 4:07 PM  

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